Drummers Pathway Podcast

This episode features my conversation with drummer Ben Hilzinger. Based in LA, Ben’s career spans over two decades as a touring and recording drummer who has worked with artists such as Eve 6, Cannons and many others. He's also the Director of Artist/Client Relations for Big Fat Snare Drum.

Ben is the host of the podcast "Drummers on Drumming" where he has established a community of like minded musicians through his candid discussions about life and navigating a career in the music industry. 

Ben recently released his book “Drummers on Drumming”. Adapted from the podcast, it takes you inside the minds of the world’s most influential drummers who share the albums and stories that inspired their creative journeys.

In this episode, we discuss the importance of building authentic relationships in the music community, being intentional with your social media presence, and why staying adaptable is crucial when your career takes unexpected turns.

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This episode features my conversation with drummer Ash Soan.

From his roots in the UK to studios and stages around the world, Ash has laid down the rhythmic foundation for some of music's biggest names including Adele, Robbie Williams, Del Amitri, Squeeze,Tori Amos, Snow Patrol and countless others across different genres.

Known for his impeccable groove, musical sensitivity, and ability to serve the song, Ash has earned his place as one of the most in-demand session drummers in the business.

In this episode, we talk about how early influences help to define creative styles, discuss the mindset required to thrive in high-pressure creative environments, and why it’s essential to embrace social media to help establish your career.

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This episode features a roundtable discussion with drummer Jake Sommers & bassist Mat Maxwell.

Both musicians are key members of country superstar Luke Combs' touring band and have established themselves as highly respected freelance professionals in the Nashville music scene.

Mat is also the co-author of "Hired Musician: A Guide to Getting and Keeping Gigs", a comprehensive resource for building a career as a freelance musician.

In this episode, we explore the value of forming authentic relationships, managing the factors of a freelance career, preparing for touring opportunities, and the importance of keeping a positive attitude and prioritizing your mental wellness.

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This episode features my conversation with drummer Tom Brechtlein.

From his roots in Long Island, NY to his current home in Austin, TX, Tom has laid down the rhythmic foundation for some of music's most iconic artists—including Chick Corea, Wayne Shorter, Jean-Luc Ponty, Al Di Meola, Robben Ford, Kenny Loggins and more.

Known for his versatility and creative expression, Tom has earned his place as one of the most respected drummers in the business.

In this episode, we dive into how his early experiences shaped his journey to becoming a jazz musician, explore the value of staying flexible and open-minded across different creative environments, and discuss why seeking out live music is essential for staying inspired and motivated to develop your craft.

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On this episode, Chicago based drummer Paul Wertico  returns for his second appearance on the podcast.

Paul is widely respected for his artistry and innovative approach to music. His distinctive style has made him a highly sought-after collaborator, with his work appearing across numerous projects.

In this conversation, we discuss his new duo project "Tuxedo Man" with guitarist David Becker, the creative process behind the album, his partnership with Dream Cymbals and the details of his new signature Bliss Wertico Ride Cymbal, and how AI is emerging as a creative tool that musicians should embrace.

To learn more about Paul's background, check out episode 62 of the podcast.
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This episode features my conversation with session drummer Mickey Curry.

With a career spanning more than 5 decades, he's provided the rhythmic foundation for iconic artists including Bryan Adams, Hall & Oates, The Cult, Tom Cochrane, Alice Cooper, Tom Waits and many more. 

Recognized for his solid groove and commitment to elevating every song, Mickey has established his place as one of the most respected and in-demand drummers in the business.

In this episode, we explore how his early experiences shaped his path to becoming a session drummer, discuss the value of staying flexible and open-minded in different creative environments, and talk about why finding balance is key to living a happy, fulfilling life.

This episode features my conversation with Pat Steward.

Based in Vancouver, Pat is known for his work with Bryan Adams, particularly on the legendary album Reckless. His drumming on tracks like "Summer of '69," "Kids Wanna Rock," and "One Night Love Affair" is widely celebrated.

As a sought-after session player, Pat has collaborated with artists including Odds, Colin James, Matthew Good, and Jann Arden, among others. He's highly regarded for bringing his passion and positive energy to every project.

In this episode, we talk about his early experiences that led to his gig with Bryan Adams, the lessons he learned as a session player, and why it’s essential to maintain positive relationships in this industry.

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This episode features my conversation with Bart Robley.

Based in Southern California, Bart is a member of the Sam Morrison Band and maintains an active freelance career.

As an educator, Bart has dedicated himself to sharing his knowledge and experience with aspiring drummers. He has conducted workshops, masterclasses, and clinics across the globe, inspiring students to unlock their musical potential.

In addition to his contributions as an educator, Bart is also an accomplished author. His books on drumming techniques, musical improvisation, and personal growth have received widespread recognition.

His most recent book, Drum Up Your Business, offers valuable insights and guidance to musicians seeking personal and professional development.

He is also the co-founder of the Drummers Education Connection Podcast, an online education network for drummers and instructors, serving the global drumming community.

In this episode, we explore what inspired him to write Drum Up Your Business, the importance of seeking out a mentor, and understanding how community connections can help unlock career opportunities.

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This episode features my conversation with Jeremy Steinkoler.

Based in the San Francisco Bay Area, Jeremy is the drummer with the funk/jazz trio Mo’Fone, and a sought-after sideman. His resume spans multiple genres and includes collaborations with many other top musicians around the Bay Area. 

Jeremy is a passionate educator, Co-Founder and Co-Director of the BandWorks music program as well as Founder and Director of the East Bay Drum School.

He is an accomplished author and his book "Finding the Groove” is a critically acclaimed collection of essays on drumming, performing, and teaching. He is also the co-founder of the Drummers Education Connection Podcast, an online education network for drummers and instructors, serving the global drumming community.

In this episode, we explore what inspired him to write "Finding the Groove," discuss his educational philosophies, and examine how building community connections can strengthen your career.

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This episode features my conversation with Mark Schulman. 

Mark is a world-renowned drummer with over 30 years of experience performing on the biggest stages around the globe. From 2006 to 2021, Mark was the touring drummer for international superstar Pink. He has also worked with Billy Idol, Stevie Nicks, Foreigner, Cher, Simple Minds, and others over his career. 

Mark has drawn from his high-pressure performance background to build a thriving career as a corporate keynote speaker and bestselling author, empowering people to navigate their pivotal moments and thrive in high-pressure situations.

In this episode, we talk about the concepts behind his books “Conquering Life’s Stage Fright” and “The Attitude Equation”, the lessons he’s learned over his professional career, and why it’s essential to remain humble and focused on being of service to others.

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