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This show features conversations with drummers, educators and other creative artists sharing their experiences and discussing the paths they have followed to pursue a life in the arts. We have all achieved success and faced challenges in a variety of different ways and through these discussions, we will learn about how the choices we make can determine the paths that we are meant to follow.
This show features conversations with drummers, educators and other creative artists sharing their experiences and discussing the paths they have followed to pursue a life in the arts. We have all achieved success and faced challenges in a variety of different ways and through these discussions, we will learn about how the choices we make can determine the paths that we are meant to follow.
Episodes

Monday Feb 16, 2026
Episode 91 - Rick Stojak (Perspectives On Education & Musical Exploration)
Monday Feb 16, 2026
Monday Feb 16, 2026
This episode features my conversation with Rick Stojak.
Based in San Diego, Rick is a professional drummer and educator recognized for his versatility across different genres. He remains an active presence on the local music scene while maintaining a thriving private teaching studio.
He is the author of the book series “How To Build A Drum Groove” and is a co-founder of the Drummers Education Connection Podcast.
In this episode, we talk about the inspiration behind his book “How To Build A Drum Groove”, how he discovered his passion for teaching, and why building strong community connections is key to sustaining a successful career.
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How To Build A Drum Groove Series
Hudson Music - Digital Book Versions
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Drummers Education Connection

Monday Feb 02, 2026
Monday Feb 02, 2026
This episode features my conversation with drummer Ben Hilzinger. Based in LA, Ben’s career spans over two decades as a touring and recording drummer who has worked with artists such as Eve 6, Cannons and many others. He's also the Director of Artist/Client Relations for Big Fat Snare Drum.
Ben is the host of the podcast "Drummers on Drumming" where he has established a community of like minded musicians through his candid discussions about life and navigating a career in the music industry.
Ben recently released his book “Drummers on Drumming”. Adapted from the podcast, it takes you inside the minds of the world’s most influential drummers who share the albums and stories that inspired their creative journeys.
In this episode, we discuss the importance of building authentic relationships in the music community, being intentional with your social media presence, and why staying adaptable is crucial when your career takes unexpected turns.
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Drummers On Drumming Book
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Sunday Jan 18, 2026
Episode 89 - Ash Soan (Studio Creativity & Embracing Social Media)
Sunday Jan 18, 2026
Sunday Jan 18, 2026
This episode features my conversation with drummer Ash Soan.
From his roots in the UK to studios and stages around the world, Ash has laid down the rhythmic foundation for some of music's biggest names including Adele, Robbie Williams, Del Amitri, Squeeze,Tori Amos, Snow Patrol and countless others across different genres.
Known for his impeccable groove, musical sensitivity, and ability to serve the song, Ash has earned his place as one of the most in-demand session drummers in the business.
In this episode, we talk about how early influences help to define creative styles, discuss the mindset required to thrive in high-pressure creative environments, and why it’s essential to embrace social media to help establish your career.

Monday Dec 22, 2025
Monday Dec 22, 2025
This episode features a roundtable discussion with drummer Jake Sommers & bassist Mat Maxwell.
Both musicians are key members of country superstar Luke Combs' touring band and have established themselves as highly respected freelance professionals in the Nashville music scene.
Mat is also the co-author of "Hired Musician: A Guide to Getting and Keeping Gigs", a comprehensive resource for building a career as a freelance musician.
In this episode, we explore the value of forming authentic relationships, managing the factors of a freelance career, preparing for touring opportunities, and the importance of keeping a positive attitude and prioritizing your mental wellness.
Hired Musician: A Guide to Getting and Keeping Gigs
Amazon
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Monday Dec 08, 2025
Monday Dec 08, 2025
This episode features my conversation with drummer Tom Brechtlein.
From his roots in Long Island, NY to his current home in Austin, TX, Tom has laid down the rhythmic foundation for some of music's most iconic artists—including Chick Corea, Wayne Shorter, Jean-Luc Ponty, Al Di Meola, Robben Ford, Kenny Loggins and more.
Known for his versatility and creative expression, Tom has earned his place as one of the most respected drummers in the business.
In this episode, we dive into how his early experiences shaped his journey to becoming a jazz musician, explore the value of staying flexible and open-minded across different creative environments, and discuss why seeking out live music is essential for staying inspired and motivated to develop your craft.
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Monday Nov 24, 2025
Episode 86 - Paul Wertico ( The Art Of Improvisation & Embracing Technology)
Monday Nov 24, 2025
Monday Nov 24, 2025
On this episode, Chicago based drummer Paul Wertico returns for his second appearance on the podcast.
Paul is widely respected for his artistry and innovative approach to music. His distinctive style has made him a highly sought-after collaborator, with his work appearing across numerous projects.
In this conversation, we discuss his new duo project "Tuxedo Man" with guitarist David Becker, the creative process behind the album, his partnership with Dream Cymbals and the details of his new signature Bliss Wertico Ride Cymbal, and how AI is emerging as a creative tool that musicians should embrace.
To learn more about Paul's background, check out episode 62 of the podcast.
Episode 62
Tuxedo Man
https://id.ffm.to/tuxedo_man
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Monday Nov 10, 2025
Episode 85 - Mickey Curry (Keeping It Simple & Working With Icons)
Monday Nov 10, 2025
Monday Nov 10, 2025
This episode features my conversation with session drummer Mickey Curry.
With a career spanning more than 4 decades, he's provided the rhythmic foundation for iconic artists including Bryan Adams, Hall & Oates, The Cult, Tom Cochrane, Alice Cooper, Tom Waits and many more.
Recognized for his solid groove and commitment to elevating every song, Mickey has established his place as one of the most respected and in-demand drummers in the business.
In this episode, we explore how his early experiences shaped his path to becoming a session drummer, discuss the value of staying flexible and open-minded in different creative environments, and talk about why finding balance is key to living a happy, fulfilling life.

Monday Oct 27, 2025
Episode 84 - Pat Steward (Working With Bryan Adams & Embracing A Legacy)
Monday Oct 27, 2025
Monday Oct 27, 2025
This episode features my conversation with Pat Steward.
Based in Vancouver, Pat is known for his work with Bryan Adams, particularly on the legendary album Reckless. His drumming on tracks like "Summer of '69," "Kids Wanna Rock," and "One Night Love Affair" is widely celebrated.
As a sought-after session player, Pat has collaborated with artists including Odds, Colin James, Matthew Good, and Jann Arden, among others. He's highly regarded for bringing his passion and positive energy to every project.
In this episode, we talk about his early experiences that led to his gig with Bryan Adams, the lessons he learned as a session player, and why it’s essential to maintain positive relationships in this industry.
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Monday Oct 13, 2025
Monday Oct 13, 2025
This episode features my conversation with Bart Robley.
Based in Southern California, Bart is a member of the Sam Morrison Band and maintains an active freelance career.
As an educator, Bart has dedicated himself to sharing his knowledge and experience with aspiring drummers. He has conducted workshops, masterclasses, and clinics across the globe, inspiring students to unlock their musical potential.
In addition to his contributions as an educator, Bart is also an accomplished author. His books on drumming techniques, musical improvisation, and personal growth have received widespread recognition.
His most recent book, Drum Up Your Business, offers valuable insights and guidance to musicians seeking personal and professional development.
He is also the co-founder of the Drummers Education Connection Podcast, an online education network for drummers and instructors, serving the global drumming community.
In this episode, we explore what inspired him to write Drum Up Your Business, the importance of seeking out a mentor, and understanding how community connections can help unlock career opportunities.
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Monday Sep 29, 2025
Monday Sep 29, 2025
This episode features my conversation with Jeremy Steinkoler.
Based in the San Francisco Bay Area, Jeremy is the drummer with the funk/jazz trio Mo’Fone, and a sought-after sideman. His resume spans multiple genres and includes collaborations with many other top musicians around the Bay Area.
Jeremy is a passionate educator, Co-Founder and Co-Director of the BandWorks music program as well as Founder and Director of the East Bay Drum School.
He is an accomplished author and his book "Finding the Groove” is a critically acclaimed collection of essays on drumming, performing, and teaching. He is also the co-founder of the Drummers Education Connection Podcast, an online education network for drummers and instructors, serving the global drumming community.
In this episode, we explore what inspired him to write "Finding the Groove," discuss his educational philosophies, and examine how building community connections can strengthen your career.
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The Drummers Pathway
I’m Michael Scott and welcome to The Drummers Pathway Podcast. This show features conversations with drummers, educators and other creative artists sharing their experiences and discussing the paths they have followed to pursue a life in the arts.
We have all achieved success and faced challenges in a variety of different ways and through these discussions, we will learn about how the choices we make can determine the paths that we are meant to follow.
Follow me at https://www.mwsdrums.ca
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Michael W. Scott is a Hamilton, Ontario based freelance drummer/educator who has been working in the industry for over 30 years. His extensive education background and experience has allowed him to adapt to many different musical genres and has built his reputation for being positive, prepared and professional.
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